I agree with your view. You realize that he and the whole of GCC have been supporting him since 2001, right? All of this is spinning out of control, w/everyones comments & personal opinions. 0:00 / 47:27 Introduction Questions & Answers with Kim, Lawson, MacArthur, and Nichols Ligonier Ministries 553K subscribers Subscribe 300K views 1 year ago #ligcon A questions and answers. View our current career opportunities. Must a person forsake his sins to come to Christ? The Psalmist David used to pray for God to deal with his enemies, why dont people pray such prayers today? Reply. And bigger picture, how many in authority operate. He is a LEADER who behaved disgraceful and led others to do the same. It is kind of like a baby with a pacifierJM tickles the ears of these work horses. Instead, it reads as gotcha journalism and bias on the site. The Ligonier Ministries site requires Javascript, but youve got Javascript disabled. His inability to admit he was wrong and reach out to the victims in this case should rightfully be called out.. Don't forgettomorrow is the last Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. It only proves that some folks believe the worst about others no matter what they say. A particular thought pattern now permeates our civic discourse: We dont have to believe what they say, because they are dishonest, unfair. MacArthur does not know the verse, it says: Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord and so bring wrath on yourself from the Lord? (2 Chronicles 19:2). John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. "You are the Ligonier story." As we entered our fiftieth year of ministry in 2021, that's what I shared with some of our ministry friends. They continually chose to support an abuser over the victims of that abuse, even after the abuser admitted to his own abuse AND was found guilty in a court of law. In addition to addressing the global gospel outreach of Ligonier Ministries, this event will consider why and how Christians should share the good news of Christ around the world. Blessed in Christ Detroit 2021 Conference - Ligonier Ministries There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Our 2021 Winter Conference, commemorating the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, will celebrate Dr. Sproul's life and legacy, examining the central themes he proclaimed as he strove to help every Christian become a better theologian. 2. #ligcon See less Comments Audio was taken from the following sermons:Derek Thomas: The Worship of Godhttps://bit.ly/3isftb8Steven Lawson: The Glory of Godhttps://bit.ly/3ort0U7W. Sounds like we are still unreformed and have adopted Romes conception of the church as power structure. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. MacArthur, whos been a mainstay at the conference for decades, was slated to speak at Ligonier 2022, March 2426 in Orlando, Florida. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians re There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. I really dont know the whole story and neither do you! Unless they presume to be sinless, why wouldnt they simply humbly graciously admit to the wrong they did and ask for forgiveness ? Its at the expense of John Mac Arthurs life long work as well. 27. Say something I dont agree with spirituality, sure lets go to the elders. How in the world would she do that if she is not a member of GCC? Sproul and Ligonier in their lives. The same message can now be disregarded, played down, ignored, criticised. beginning with Ravi Zacharias that there seems to be a pattern emerging that shows effective, full counsel of God ministries seem to be under petty attacks by those who hate God. [11] To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. This seems really weird. You can also keep these digital messages forever by purchasing the conference collection from the Ligonier store. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Its scary to think every sin youve committed thirty years ago can be found out by sleuths. 3) I am disgusted by Phil Johnsons description of Julie Roys and her reporting. However, we then discovered a post on Facebook post indicating MacArthur was cancelling a speaking engagement at Calvary Baptist Church in Dothan, Alabama, due to health issues. Have you read the hand written confession David Gray gave to GCC? What is the future of reformed theology? Assuming that the same person will have these very different skills would seem to be a foundational error in many cases. Join us on September 24-25, 2021, for A Continuing Reformation, a two-day conference in Pittsburgh, PA. As we examine essential truths of Scripture championed in the Protestant Reformation, we'll be encouraged to stand with greater conviction on the immovable . Is that what your sharing that Julie might find out about you? Im sorry. In the 1 minute video below, you will get a sense of the Ligonier conference and of the speakers who answered the following questions: I linked the Q&A video of this post below, while you watch it, you should see other videos of the conference nearby. He also comes across as extremely hypocritical, like a true Pharisee, when he preaches about biblical qualifications women not being allowed to preach, for example but then doesnt meet the biblical standard to preach himself. It is despicable. And that it doesnt cost us anything, its a GIFT FREELY received by those who BELIEVE. Read More. YOU, I have been looking for MacArthurs repentance? He seemed proud of his involvement in civil rights. There is no way for us to know for sure at this time and we maybe never will. [40:30 48m], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMuLTFOGPx8. Others had been Cadets or counselors themselves at some point and were happy to become reacquainted. Lets stop the apologist nonsense for this behavior. Sproul, and explains how the teaching of Ligonier Ministries has shaped his thinking and touched his life. 16:13). GHH, John Mac Arthur is a great expositor but he failed at being a good Pastor in this case.. Most institutional church men cannot help but earn their salvation. NO POPUPS! Julie, I know you believe it is right, but all the scriptures you use to justify your type of reporting is not in context with the scriptures. Not before an unbelieving world 20 yrs later. This is an ONGOING issue. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Is the fact that MacArthur missing a conference really newsworthy? Right Now Counts Forever 2021 National Conference by Various Teachers | Ligonier Ministries If you are nothing more than a cosmic accident, your life doesn't matter. Ligonier Ministries 421 Ligonier Ct Sanford, FL 32771 Telephone Number: +1 (800) 435-4343 Email Address: info@ligonier.org. You are blessed to expose the charlatans of the church like MacArthur. She also has the training. We urge you to sign upto receive our FREE need to read articles. Now She is Standing in the Gap for Women. When the Bible was written all people had was the church. The more you study your Bible, the more you will come to appreciate such pastors. Any public rebuke was done in front of believers and were written to believers. A person who is saved by faith in Jesus will display the fruit of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, etc. Sproul" and "exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible." Learn more: https://www.ligonier.org/about/ The conference theme was "Right Now Counts Forever." Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Tom Gardiana, folks have been looking for MacArthurs repentance, but it is yet to be found. I have faith in the teaching of Pastor John and can see there are constant attacks on his ministry to compromise the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The man may legit be Ill! The cancellation comes after revelations that MacArthur had apparently promoted a convicted child abuser and shamed the abuser's wife. Matthew 18:15-17 John has told us in his past sermons that those who refuse to benefit from his churchs council long can be released as a member, but only until that person repents, & confess. You can literally walk in the footsteps of our heroes of the past, of Luther, of Calvin, of Jonathan Edwards. [38:30 40:30], Q8 and 9. COUNSELOR LOGIN | U.S. STORE | CANADA STORE. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? A careful read of her articles will show that she keeps an open mind and pursues facts. No. Eileen Taylors 20-year-old self could never have imagined her life today. He answered Julie very disrespectful when she reported on Macarthurs homes. I hope and pray that the horrific treatment by JM and his henchman to this lady and her children did not break their faith. That church is absolutely egregious on covering up a sexual predator, but the Lord will tell you that you should never help that wicked. This story is extremely well documented so I am forced to accept the truth. 9K views, 289 likes, 119 loves, 13 comments, 90 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Ligonier Ministries: The third and final day of our National Conference has come to a close. You are a follower of a cult leader. You are misunderstanding and misrepresenting what John has preached and written on the topic. Unity in His Church is paramount right now and I refuse to even consider anything outside of that God given instruction to seek first His Kingdom, his righteousness and unity in His Church. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Am I Right With God Pastor Patrick Hines sheeplywolves, By Faith Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey, By Faith Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey sheeplywolves, Not By Works Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey. Sproul's new book. The Ligonier Conference 2021was titled Right Now Counts Forever. Meanwhile, the wife of the predator had been for years trying to keep her family safe and protected and had been manipulated into supporting her husband the predator, thus she had gotten compromised along the way. Registration Learn More Resource Library All Resources G3 Clips The Heart Is Deceitful above All Things Phil Johnson G3 Clips Passing on the Importance of Historic Church Leaders James White G3 Clips The Inspiration of Scripture 2021 Winter Conference: Everyone's a Theologian. There wasnt just one incident of acting horrible and then it was over. Our culture may suggest that nothing is of lasting significance, but as Christians, we know that God is at work all the time, now and forever, and so we must continue our work to spread and strengthen not only Cadets but Gods Kingdom. Ligonier Tours takes you to the places where significant events occurred, events that have shaped history. We know enough of the story to call a man to repentance. How is this what you are doing??? Thank you Cherul Unruh for being brave enough to say so. Ligonier Camp and Conference Center is a Christian outdoor adventure summer camp and retreat center located in the beautiful Laurel Highlands of western Pennsylvania. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians rests our identity as Christians in the sovereign grace of God. To donate, supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions, Opinion: John MacArthur and We vs. They. And they will also seek to obey the Lords commands and seek to flee from sin. National Conference Sep 21-23, 2023 Atlanta, GA General Registration The Sovereignty of God God is sovereign over all. Lone-pastor/senior-pastors surrounded by subordinates are less likely to receive guidance like what is offered now before the blunder is made and the damage is done. 451 Ligonier Court, Sanford, . If Your Brother Sins Against You If they had we wouldnt be having this discussion. While MacArthur withdrew, for whatever reasons those were, many prominent speakers remain such as Steven Lawson, Sinclair Ferguson, Robert Godfrey, Stephen Nichols, Burk Parsons, Derek Thomas, and Michael Reeves, amongst others. God bless Pastor John and his church family. Shes not acting as a church member, she acting as an investigative journalist doing a paid job from a secular standpoint looking at what goes on in the church. Julie Roys has proven that GCC knew of this, while at the same time ordering her to go home and submit to this monster. . Go ahead and say that you are going to stand by John MacArthur regardless of what he has done. Grace Community Church was given a *written confession* by David Gray before MacArthur publicly shamed her for not submitting to him. "Last Friday, the board of directors of Ligonier Ministries and Reformation Bible College received and affirmed the resignation of Dr. R.C. If the NT was written today Im sure it would include that pedophiles and wife/child abusers and thieves should be handed over to law enforcement. It seems that you do. Due to his visibility, I believe his hubris has tarnished both. I agree we are all sinners and I agree I would not want my past exposed. Thats totally anti-Biblical. Guilty by association. Christians will not find strength to face the challenges of today by looking to novel ideas Rather than a mere relic of the past, the Reformation is our future. God bless you Julie, for exposing John Maccarthurs hippocrisy. [0 7m]. It means that these believers use The Bible to align with their views and prejudices, which takes precedence; they dont deny themselves to follow Christ. These mega churches do not function biblically because its too cumbersome. Absolutely correct. On March 18-20, 2021, Ligonier Ministries hosted its 2021 National Conference, celebrating fifty years since the ministry's founding. 4) I am so disappointed that John has not responded to this very important happening. / Socialism / Communism, Satan; Slanderer; Devil; Liar; Serpent; Dragon, Covenant Theology Overview by Pastor Patrick Hines [Salvation and Eschatology, Part 7, Conclusion], Covenant Theology Overview by Pastor Patrick Hines [Salvation and Eschatology, Part 7, Conclusion] sheeplywolves. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Now we have law enforcement to handle the criminal elements. 2) Why did not the church report the attempted murder, yes that is what he confessed to in writing, to the police. You know, it is certainly possible that he is indeed sick. Ligonier Camp and Conference Center is a Christian outdoor adventure summer camp and retreat center located in the beautiful Laurel Highlands of western Pennsylvania. Knowing all that has been done for us in union with Christ, we can more clearly see how the gospel informs every aspect of our lives, directing us to serve the Lord faithfully today. You use 1 Tim 5:20 as justification to take these matters public, but come on, we both know when it says everyone it is in the context of everyone in the church not the world at large. Why are they so angry when they are being held to account , when asked to walk the talk ? It is not to be handled by elders in private and a decision abruptly announced by the lone pastor/teacher. Ding! If you cannot hold a pastor/teacher accountable here, and call him to repentance, when can you? Grace is the higher law here, especially amongst believers. Christs apostle Paul did not instruct, let her remain shamed away from the church.. The conference theme was Right Now Counts Forever. Attendees were often reminded that God is at work in everything, including the current moment, so that what we do in the present matters forever. On March 17, we published an article documenting how MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC) promoted and supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions for aggravated child molestation and child abuse. He needs to be biblically qualified and he isnt. But based on my experience of attending a n umber of churches I have found that GCC and John MacArthur are the real deal and at no time have I ever heard him preach any sermon that wasnt 100% scriptual. Gray admitted that he beat his kids on the heads and feet with a rod and belt, with his knee on their backs! God bless you, Julie, dear sister. The answers to Q6 occurred from the 21 minute mark to 38:30. May God bless all his children as we all seek his face! I was never comfortable with the way he publicly corrected others, including RC Sproul. (Brad Schoolfield) Recently, news broke that Ligonier Ministries scheduled their 2022 National Conference at First Baptist Orlando, which concludes this weekend. JUST STRAIGHT NEWS. In the process, may exposed charlatans move on to another grift in shame and dishonor. Yes, I understand the point. Ligonier Ministries is an international Christian discipleship organization founded by theologian Dr. R.C. This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. Q5. To pretty much assume that it is an excuse may well be jumping to false conclusions. The Roys Report has repeatedly sought comment from MacArthur and GCC about the incidents involving David Gray and his wife. Why does a true believer, who trusts and believe in what Jesus did on the cross and rose again need to prove anything to themselves? We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. The traditionally conservative and Gospel-centered organization is called Ligonier because it was founded in Ligonier Valley, Pennsylvania in 1971 and it publishes the popular Table Talk Magazine, which is edited by Burk Parsons. He may start with faith alone, but he brings works into maintaining salvation and if you believe your works maintain your salvation, you are not saved, because no works can justify or maintain salvation before God. I dont think I have to point out beginning with Ravi Zacharias that there seems to be a pattern emerging that shows effective, full counsel of God ministries seem to be under petty attacks. **1 Cor 6:6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers! Cheryl, very reasonable response by you. View our current career opportunities. Not only does she have the heart for doing good journalism. Robert Godfrey: The Necessity of Christhttps://bit.ly/3a3eTw0Music:Solar Flares - Caleb Etheridgehttps://filmpac.com/product/FMAAA1833/ Of course it is. Nearly everyone who stopped by the Cadet exhibit was excited to learn that Cadets is at work in the lives of boys and men around the world. Think what you want, I choose to keep my eyes on my Lord and get my truth from the living Gods Book about man and information that actually corresponds to reality. Total Codes. Im not a follower of JM, but Im also not one to creat news where there is no news. Tom, I hope this doesnt seem like piling on, since youve already gotten a number of replies to your comment. The Roys Report reached out to MacArthur for comment but did not immediately hear back. Ligonier Ministries helped me become confessionally Reformed and love our historic Christian faith! October 21. Now, he dissuades any such discussions. Neither the church nor MacArthur has responded. Hence, MacArthur and all his elders are accountable to the judgment in the Lord. Nor should you try to tarnish anyone whitout facts. So, Im assuming he really isnt well, and it seems cynical to think otherwise. These men are wonderful brothers in the faith, many having decades long faithful ministries that have benefited an untold amount of believers.. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Even when there is an opportunity to fess up and give a truthful explanation as to why MacArthur will not be able to attend a scheduled event, they/he still gives excuses. Friday evening, Ligonier Ministries responded to a request for comment, saying: Thank you for your inquiry. Sounds to me like youre a God hater? Okay so I dont know who you are or what you believe. As a reminder. An elder must be above reproach. His reputation as a true servant of God for all the years Ive known him requires no explanation for the decisions he has made this far in his life & career. **Gal 5:15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! It is wrong. Shared with Public Follow Like the prophet Isaiah, we need cleansing in order to dwell with God in His supreme holiness. The problem with this particular sin, is its a crime so it is not about digging. Click Bait on the headline! Churches are to be pastored by the group of co-equal, older men (elders) of a church who meet the qualifications of bishop, 1 Timothy 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9. How strange in this case the government got it right, and the Elders leading the local church got it wrong. On Monday, January 18, we hosted our 2021 Winter Conference, Everyone's a Theologian, at Saint Andrew's Chapel and on the RBC campus in Central Florida. And he also lied and said that he was sick, when clearly he wasnt, because he went golfing. Be among the first to get R.C. Ligonier Ministries partners with Sovereign Tours, a Florida Seller of Travel #ST35876. And this is a pattern for him. While Im great full for GTYs ministry in past years I question what was going on then that none of us knew. Amen. This story will not go away. The Ligonier app allows you to: Log in to access your purchased teaching series and conference messages Download audio messages for offline playback Cast video and audio to connected. Unfortunately w Steve Lawson so entrenched in both MacArthur and Ligonier ministries I have to break from both. How would you counsel someone who struggles with unbelief / doubt [someone who lacks assurance]? So many write to us every week to share how the Lord has used Dr. R.C. Its a bit like serving up a five star Gourmet meal from a budget take-out food bento box. On March 8, The Roys Report published an expos with exclusive video showing that MacArthur shamed and excommunicated the wife of child abuser, David Gray, for refusing to take Gray back into her home. This is one of the problems with Elder-run churches.. He makes excuses because he is siding with the predator, David Gray. Interactive video courses for individual or group study on topics related to the Bible, theology, Christian living, church history, and more. Whatever Elders do at GCC, it is somehow distinct from Leadership. With our glorious future in view, Christians do not have less of a stake in the present, but infinitely more. Precisely. Thank you Debra Howard well said and i too have the same thoughts the Julie Roys ministry is important. Are we so deceived by men that we find it impossible for John to need to be in need of correction? There is a question of whos work? Ironically, the John MacArthur I admired for so long, is now the one continuously worthy of being publicly criticized. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Opinion: John MacArthurs Church Let Her Down. 13:8). What is the future church facing? I guess they dont really believe what they preach. Gods got this! Sproul so often reminded us, right now counts forever. . ; Dan Bonville. I believe this has nothing to do with the above mentioned ministries rather than the Church of Jesus Christ being directly attacked by those who hate God, hate truth, hate the Gospel and know that the ideas of the Judeo Christian world view stands alone preventing the evil one from destroying the The true Church of Jesus Christ and the salvation of many. Q4. Hes taken the job and the money and is accountable. The entire panel responded and every answer was great. Trust God and pray for the truth to be known at any and all costs. If we all used the hey, we all sin! But dont say that we dont know the story. It is the reason I support them. We can certainly learn from reading and studying. Ligonier Ministries is the teaching fellowship of R.C. So, generally speaking, this is what Ive come to expect from this site. I wonder how Phil and Justin are gonna spin this? A premiere summer camp with excellent adventure and outdoor education nestled in the heart of the Laurel Highlands of Western Pennsylvania. Phils response is certainly not biblical and nowhere close to being christian. The result is that they become Satans buddies, by being in and of the world to the point that they believe whatever they want to believe, distorting Christs character, which might well be known to them rather than being ignorant of it, and they develop a denial based cult like mentality, which becomes pride-filled, disrespectful of the law, macho and deeply conservative above and beyond being Christlike. The difference is I can ask for forgiveness and repent of my ways. It is a most magnificent truth. August 2021 View Issue The History of Ligonier Ministries by Stephen J. Nichols Last Things Etched on a granite memorial in Point State Park in Pittsburgh are the words "A Place of International Consequence." This place, Three Rivers, played a pivotal role in the Colonial era. Sproul Trusting God The Westminster Shorter Catechism with Sinclair Ferguson Question & Answer 95 Valley Of Vision The Personal Touch Ask RC Church and the Culture Show Me Your Glory Learn More Music You may as well say to a Christian policeman that he cant arrest anyone, in case the suspect turns out that they are Christian or claims to be. They are clueless about how the Criminal Justice Process works. Have you seen the email that went out to the church asking people to give money to his defense? (Brad Schoolfield) Recently, news broke that Ligonier Ministries scheduled their 2022 National Conference at First Baptist Orlando, which concludes this weekend. Ding!) This is the lowest registration rate we will offer. Lordship salvation is the gospel of John macarthur and it is a false gospel different from the gospel of grace the apostles preached and the gospel that the reformers believed in (faith alone). Quit picking on these guys! I understand this is an extreme example, but hopefully you see the problem here. In MacArthurs case his higher calling needs higher scrutiny. It sounds like you are seeing these allegations as an isolated incident cherry picked from his past, where many of us are seeing this as proof of how he operates. These allegations dont detract from his work in the slightest. What are you talking about! The predator has groomed the elders elders and the congregation even before selecting the victims. A Conservative Christian Elder Board, to be most precise. Sproul, and considered the calling of every . Ligonier Ministries is "the teaching fellowship of R.C. Sproul Jr. Sproul in 1971 to equip Christians to articulate what they believe, why they believe it,. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. If you should want to look at the video titles of all the events of the conference, just search Ligonier Conference 2021 and they will be listed. It was a 3-day conference. In the Greek-speaking world in which this was communicated, elder was universally understood as being a man at least 60 years old. What does that mean in the church? If you do not have time to hear the entire 48 minute video, then I highly recommend hearing Q6 How would you counsel someone who struggles with unbelief / doubt [who lacks assurance]? Part of the problem is he is perhaps self-perceived, and certainly perceived by others as a leader. That is the part that is, as you put it, scary. The Calvinist Cadet Corps was present as an exhibitor at the 2021 Ligonier Ministries National Conference, March 18-20. Jesus is Lord. College-Age Positions: $100 for Training + $285 / Week Base Rate. However, I hoped he was trying to protect the credibility of Gods holy word, and the testimony of His church. I was thinking the same thing. There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Friday morning, The Roys Report noticed that MacArthur had been removed from the conference website and tweeted about the discovery. David Grey continued from jail to manipulate others in Grace Community Church to his benefit despite his criminal conviction. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. 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